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		<description>Christians have been sticking their noses in to where they don&#039;t belong for centuries... 

Scientific Research has NOTHING to do with religion. 

If Christians are against it then they don&#039;t have to use the benefits that may come from this research.

Christians don&#039;t use Plan-B so they end up with unwanted children... The same should hold true for any future advances in the field of Stem Cell Research. 

If you don&#039;t like where the treatment came from, then tell your doctor you have a moral objection to it and ask for leaches. 

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Faith in Prayer Kills Children
http://www.livescience.com/health/080410-bad-prayer-kills.html
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It isn&#039;t THAT hard... But Christians tend to be hypocrites when it comes to this sort of thing... Just like how the VP of P.E.T.A. still uses Insulin for her diabetes even though the insulin came from research that used dogs... 

She justifies her hypocrisy by saying &quot;I am not a hypocrite. I feel that my use of insulin is justified in that the longer I live, the more I can do for the animal rights movement.&quot;

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Season 2 Episode 1
PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) is against all forms of medical testing involving animals - regardless of the potential benefits to human beings... PETA supports banning the ownership of pets and advocates releasing them into the wild... It&#039;s enough to make a vegetarian eat meat! 

Streaming:
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=77I6MHCG
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Yeah... Everything is open for protest until it is something you need to stay alive...

Sigh...

Christians refuse to do the research in to what Stem Cell Research actually is...

They allow their political party and/or religion of choice to tell them what is going on and refuse to take 10 min&#039;s to so much as go to Wiki and figure out the facts for themselves...

SCIENCE SHOULD NOT BE HANDICAPPED BY POLITICAL AGENDA.

The United States is NOT a Christian Nation... It was NOT founded on Christian Ideals... Christian agendas should stay out of the classroom, research center, and White House. 

The trouble with the anti-Stem Cell nut-jobs is that they only parrot what their political or religious organization of choice tells them is &#039;the truth&#039;.

They refuse to take 10 min&#039;s and so much as go to Wiki and find out what Stem Cell Research is actually all about.

It is sad... Very Very Sad.

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Here... To be helpful, I&#039;ll even start you off on your path to discovery!

Embryonic Stem Cells: 5 Misconceptions
http://www.livescience.com/health/090317-bad-stem-cells.html

Top 5 Inaccurate Statements: (To read the details, please click on the link above)
1. George W. Bush killed research on embryonic stem cells. 
2. Bush spurred development of alternative sources of embryonic stem cells. 
3. Embryonic stem cells are no longer needed. 
4. Cures are around the corner. 
5. Obama&#039;s executive order means &quot;all systems go.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christians have been sticking their noses in to where they don&#8217;t belong for centuries&#8230; </p>
<p>Scientific Research has NOTHING to do with religion. </p>
<p>If Christians are against it then they don&#8217;t have to use the benefits that may come from this research.</p>
<p>Christians don&#8217;t use Plot-B so they end up with unwanted children&#8230; The same should hold right for any future advances in the field of Stem Cell Research. </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like where the treatment came from, then tell your doctor you have a moral doubt to it and question for leaches. </p>
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Belief in Prayer Kills Children<br />
<a href="http://www.livescience.com/health/080410-terrible-prayer-kills.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.livescience.com/health/080410-terrible-prayer-kills.html</a><br />
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<p>It isn&#8217;t THAT hard&#8230; But Christians tend to be hypocrites when it comes to this sort of thing&#8230; Just like how the VP of P.E.T.A. still uses Insulin for her diabetes even though the insulin came from research that used dogs&#8230; </p>
<p>She justifies her hypocrisy by saying &#8220;I am not a hypocrite. I feel that my use of insulin is justified in that the longer I live, the more I can do for the animal rights movement.&#8221;</p>
<p>~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~<br />
Season 2 Episode 1<br />
PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) is against all forms of medical testing involving animals &#8211; regardless of the potential benefits to human beings&#8230; PETA supports banning the ownership of pets and advocates releasing them into the wild&#8230; It&#8217;s enough to make a vegetarian eat meat! </p>
<p>Streaming:<br />
<a href="http://www.megavideo.com/?v=77I6MHCG" rel="nofollow">http://www.megavideo.com/?v=77I6MHCG</a><br />
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<p>Yeah&#8230; Everything is open for gripe until it is something you need to stay alive&#8230;</p>
<p>Sigh&#8230;</p>
<p>Christians refuse to do the research in to what Stem Cell Research really is&#8230;</p>
<p>They allow their political party and/or religion of choice to tell them what is going on and refuse to take 10 min&#8217;s to so much as go to Wiki and figure out the facts for themselves&#8230;</p>
<p>SCIENCE SHOULD NOT BE HANDICAPPED BY POLITICAL AGENDA.</p>
<p>The United States is NOT a Christian Nation&#8230; It was NOT founded on Christian Ideals&#8230; Christian agendas should stay out of the classroom, research focal point, and White House. </p>
<p>The distress with the anti-Stem Cell nut-jobs is that they only parrot what their political or religious organization of choice tells them is &#8216;the truth&#8217;.</p>
<p>They refuse to take 10 min&#8217;s and so much as go to Wiki and find out what Stem Cell Research is really all about.</p>
<p>It is sad&#8230; Very Very Sad.</p>
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Here&#8230; To be helpful, I&#8217;ll even start you off on your path to discovery!</p>
<p>Embryonic Stem Cells: 5 Misconceptions<br />
<a href="http://www.livescience.com/health/090317-terrible-stem-cells.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.livescience.com/health/090317-terrible-stem-cells.html</a></p>
<p>Top 5 Inaccurate Statements: (To read the details, please click on the link above)<br />
1. George W. Bush killed research on embryonic stem cells.<br />
2. Bush spurred development of alternative sources of embryonic stem cells.<br />
3. Embryonic stem cells are no longer needed.<br />
4. Cures are around the corner.<br />
5. Obama&#8217;s executive order means &#8220;all systems go.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymoose</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read in the paper today that there are approximately 500 million embryos currently held in fertility clinics in the US. 

I think the Christian Question (I&#039;m not one) boils down to:

Door # 1
- Belief that an embryo has a soul, and that because of that to destroy it is murder

Door # 2
- An embryo does not have a soul, and therefore harvesting stem cells and destroying the embryo is not murder
- part b.. However human cloning and breeding embryos for scientific purposes is wrong

Door # 3
- An embryo is a potential human life, and to destroy it is wrong
- However (back to the 500,000,000 embryos) since most embryo&#039;s are destroyed, it is better to use their stem cells to alleviate human suffering</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read in the paper now that there are approximately 500 million embryos currently held in fertility clinics in the US. </p>
<p>I reckon the Christian Question (I&#8217;m not one) boils down to:</p>
<p>Door # 1<br />
- Belief that an kernel has a soul, and that because of that to ruin it is murder</p>
<p>Door # 2<br />
- An kernel does not have a soul, and therefore harvesting stem cells and destroying the kernel is not murder<br />
- part b.. But human cloning and breeding embryos for scientific purposes is incorrect</p>
<p>Door # 3<br />
- An kernel is a potential human life, and to ruin it is incorrect<br />
- But (back to the 500,000,000 embryos) since most kernel&#8217;s are ruined, it is better to use their stem cells to alleviate human distress</p>
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		<title>By: Rob B</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If an embryo has not been implanted in the uterus, it is not viable...one could argue whether or not it has a soul, but there&#039;s no way to really know...what we do know is that it cannot live or develop on its own.  Conception is all good, but implantation is where I think it&#039;s at.

It doesn&#039;t make sense to make embryos willy nilly, but there are plenty around that will not grow into a baby but will be destroyed anyway, so why not use them for scientific purposes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If an kernel has not been implanted in the uterus, it is not viable&#8230;one could argue whether or not it has a soul, but there&#8217;s no way to really know&#8230;what we do know is that it cannot live or develop on its own.  Conception is all excellent, but implantation is where I reckon it&#8217;s at.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t make sense to make embryos willy nilly, but there are plenty around that will not grow into a baby but will be ruined anyway, so why not use them for scientific purposes?</p>
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		<title>By: no       fixed         address</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are options to embryonic stem cells that are just as good and not immoral. Making the Church out to be anti-science is just propaganda. 

OBAMA’S SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY MEMO

March 9, 2009
President Obama signed an executive order today on stem cell research; it was part of his “Scientific Integrity Presidential Memorandum.” In response, Catholic League president Bill Donohue said the following:
http://www.catholicleague.com/release.php?id=1575

OBAMA IS NOT OPPOSED TO ALL HUMAN CLONING

March 13, 2009

On the morning of March 9, President Obama signed an executive order on stem cell research that also included a statement on human cloning. Many media outlets quickly released a story with headlines like that of the Associated Press, “Obama Calls Cloning ‘Dangerous, Profoundly Wrong.’” On the same day, at 1:40 p.m, Obama’s press secretary, Robert Gibbs, was asked about the cloning issue and he said, “I think the executive order—I don’t have it in front of me—simply bans human cloning.”

Commenting on this is Catholic League president Bill Donohue:

“Media reports which said that President Obama banned human cloning were wrong. So was White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs. 
http://www.catholicleague.com/release.php?id=1579

&quot;While human life is threatened in many ways in our society, the destruction of human embryos for stem-cell research confronts us with an issue of respect for life in a stark new way,&quot; it says.
&quot;The issue of stem-cell research does not force us to choose between science and ethics, much less between science and religion,&quot; the document says. &quot;It presents a choice as to how our society will pursue scientific and medical progress.&quot;
The policy statement seeks to refute three arguments made in favor of permitting stem-cell research that involves the destruction of human embryos. It says proponents of embryonic stem-cell research argue:
- &quot;Any harm done in this case is outweighed by potential benefits.
- &quot;What is destroyed is not a human life, or at least not a human being with fundamental human rights.
- &quot;Dissecting human embryos for their cells should not be seen as involving a loss of embryonic life.&quot;
Responding to the first argument, the document says that &quot;the false assumption that a good end can justify direct killing has been the source of much evil in our world.&quot;
&quot;No commitment to a hoped-for &#039;greater good&#039; can erase or diminish the wrong of directly taking innocent human lives here and now,&quot; the statement adds. &quot;In fact, policies undermining our respect for human life can only endanger the vulnerable patients that stem-cell research offers to help. The same ethic that justifies taking some lives to help the patient with Parkinson&#039;s or Alzheimer&#039;s disease today can be used to sacrifice that very patient tomorrow.&quot;
On the claims that a week-old embryo is &quot;too small, immature or undeveloped to be considered a &#039;human life&#039;&quot; or &quot;too lacking in mental or physical abilities to have full human worth or human rights,&quot; the document notes that the embryo &quot;has the full complement of human genes&quot; and is worthy of the same dignity given to all members of the human family.
&quot;If fundamental rights such as the right to life are based on abilities or qualities that can appear or disappear, grow or diminish, and be greater or lesser in different human beings, then there are no inherent human rights, no true human equality, only privileges for the strong,&quot; the statement says.
The document also dismisses the argument that there is no harm in killing so-called &quot;spare&quot; embryos created for in vitro fertilization attempts because they would die anyway.
&quot;Ultimately each of us will die, but that gives no one a right to kill us,&quot; the statement says. &quot;Our society does not permit lethal experiments on terminally ill patients or condemned prisoners on the pretext that they will soon die anyway. Likewise, the fact that an embryonic human being is at risk of being abandoned by his or her parents gives no individual or government a right to directly kill that human being first.&quot;
The document also addresses moves to permit human cloning and the &quot;grotesque practice&quot; – banned by the Fetus Farming Prohibition Act of 2006 – to develop cloned embryos in a woman&#039;s womb in order to harvest tissues and organs from them.
It closes with a reminder that the use of adult stem cells and umbilical-cord blood have been shown to offer &quot;a better way&quot; to produce cells that can benefit patients suffering from heart disease, corneal damage, sickle cell anemia, multiple sclerosis and many other diseases.
&quot;There is no moral objection to research and therapy of this kind, when it involves no harm to human beings at any stage of development and is conducted with appropriate informed consent,&quot; it says. &quot;Catholic foundations and medical centers have been, and will continue to be, among the leading supporters of ethically responsible advances in the medical use of adult stem cells.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are options to embryonic stem cells that are just as excellent and not immoral. Making the Church out to be anti-science is just propaganda. </p>
<p>OBAMA’S SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY MEMO</p>
<p>March 9, 2009<br />
President Obama signed an executive order now on stem cell research; it was part of his “Scientific Integrity Presidential Memorandum.” In response, Catholic League president Bill Donohue said the following:<br />
<a href="http://www.catholicleague.com/release.php?id=1575" rel="nofollow">http://www.catholicleague.com/release.php?id=1575</a></p>
<p>OBAMA IS NOT OPPOSED TO ALL HUMAN CLONING</p>
<p>March 13, 2009</p>
<p>On the morning of March 9, President Obama signed an executive order on stem cell research that also included a statement on human cloning. Many media outlets quickly released a tale with headlines like that of the Associated Press, “Obama Calls Cloning ‘Perilous, Profoundly Incorrect.’” On the same day, at 1:40 p.m, Obama’s press secretary, Robert Gibbs, was questioned about the cloning issue and he said, “I reckon the executive order—I don’t have it in front of me—simply bans human cloning.”</p>
<p>Commenting on this is Catholic League president Bill Donohue:</p>
<p>“Media reports which said that President Obama banned human cloning were incorrect. So was White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.<br />
<a href="http://www.catholicleague.com/release.php?id=1579" rel="nofollow">http://www.catholicleague.com/release.php?id=1579</a></p>
<p>&#8220;While human life is threatened in many ways in our society, the destruction of human embryos for stem-cell research confronts us with an issue of accept for life in a stark new way,&#8221; it says.<br />
&#8220;The issue of stem-cell research does not break down us to choose between science and ethics, much less between science and religion,&#8221; the document says. &#8220;It presents a choice as to how our society will pursue scientific and medical progress.&#8221;<br />
The policy statement seeks to refute three opinion made in favor of permitting stem-cell research that involves the destruction of human embryos. It says proponents of embryonic stem-cell research argue:<br />
- &#8220;Any harm done in this case is outweighed by potential benefits.<br />
- &#8220;What is ruined is not a human life, or at least not a human being with fundamental human rights.<br />
- &#8220;Dissecting human embryos for their cells should not be seen as involving a loss of embryonic life.&#8221;<br />
Responding to the first line of reasoning, the document says that &#8220;the fake assumption that a excellent end can justify direct killing has been the source of much evil in our world.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;No commitment to a hoped-for &#8216;greater excellent&#8217; can erase or diminish the incorrect of directly taking innocent human lives here and now,&#8221; the statement adds. &#8220;In fact, policies discouragement our accept for human life can only endanger the vulnerable patients that stem-cell research offers to help. The same ethic that justifies taking some lives to help the patient with Parkinson&#8217;s or Alzheimer&#8217;s disease now can be used to sacrifice that very patient tomorrow.&#8221;<br />
On the claims that a week-ancient kernel is &#8220;too small, immature or undeveloped to be considered a &#8216;human life&#8217;&#8221; or &#8220;too lacking in mental or physical abilities to have full human worth or human rights,&#8221; the document notes that the kernel &#8220;has the full complement of human genes&#8221; and is worthy of the same dignity given to all members of the human family.<br />
&#8220;If fundamental rights such as the right to life are based on abilities or qualities that can appear or disappear, grow or diminish, and be greater or lesser in different human beings, then there are no inherent human rights, no right human equality, only privileges for the strong,&#8221; the statement says.<br />
The document also dismisses the line of reasoning that there is no harm in killing so-called &#8220;emergency&#8221; embryos produced for in vitro fertilization attempts because they would die anyway.<br />
&#8220;Ultimately each of us will die, but that gives no one a right to kill us,&#8221; the statement says. &#8220;Our society does not permit lethal experiments on terminally ill patients or condemned prisoners on the pretext that they will soon die anyway. Likewise, the fact that an embryonic human being is at risk of being abandoned by his or her parents gives no individual or government a right to directly kill that human being first.&#8221;<br />
The document also addresses moves to permit human cloning and the &#8220;grotesque practice&#8221; – banned by the Fetus Farming Prohibition Act of 2006 – to develop cloned embryos in a woman&#8217;s womb in order to harvest tissues and organs from them.<br />
It closes with a reminder that the use of adult stem cells and umbilical-cord blood have been shown to offer &#8220;a better way&#8221; to produce cells that can benefit patients distress from heart disease, corneal hurt, sickle cell anemia, multiple sclerosis and many other diseases.<br />
&#8220;There is no moral doubt to research and therapy of this kind, when it involves no harm to human beings at any stage of development and is conducted with appropriate informed consent,&#8221; it says. &#8220;Catholic foundations and medical centers have been, and will take up again to be, among the leading supporters of ethically responsible advances in the medical use of adult stem cells.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe B</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would because a human life has been scientifically proven not to begin at conception, and i wouldnt want to live with those conditions. and im not religious, it shouldnt need religious justification</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would because a human life has been scientifically proven not to start at conception, and i wouldnt want to live with those conditions. and im not religious, it shouldnt need religious justification</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilbert P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this research is only possible because God give man the knowledge to come up with it, So, why not put God&#039;s gifts to use?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this research is only possible because God give man the knowledge to come up with it, So, why not place God&#8217;s gifts to use?!</p>
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		<title>By: Ray G</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a pro-life Christian who is in favor of stem cell research for the following reasons.

1. I do not accept the idea that it is murder. The babies are being aborted anyway. At least this way, their death will provide some good to society. To me, it is better than just tossing them in a garbage pail afterwards. 

2. I want to see humanity reap the benefits of this. The long list you mentioned above is worth the effort. This could be a new day for human development.

3. This current research will probably lead to the use of placental stem cells that can be used from all births and not have to come from abortions any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a pro-life Christian who is in favor of stem cell research for the following reasons.</p>
<p>1. I do not accept the thought that it is murder. The babies are being aborted anyway. At least this way, their death will grant some excellent to society. To me, it is better than just tossing them in a garbage pail afterwards. </p>
<p>2. I want to see humanity reap the benefits of this. The long list you mentioned above is worth the effort. This could be a new day for human development.</p>
<p>3. This current research will probably lead to the use of placental stem cells that can be used from all births and not have to come from abortions any more.</p>
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		<title>By: Cher</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although it&#039;s from a Jewish, not Christian perspective, it has to be one of the most interesting religious legal debates I&#039;ve seen on stem cell
http://www.aish.com/societyWork/sciencenature/Is_Stem_Cell_Research_Ethical$.asp

I have wondered if people opposed to embryoic stem cell research will refuse the treatments that are derived from it.

(Judaism by &amp; large has concluded from a religious perspective that it&#039;s acceptable.  It doesn&#039;t just say, we want it to be okay so it is, but instead goes through the strict religious arguments to conclude it is.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it&#8217;s from a Jewish, not Christian perspective, it has to be one of the most fascinating religious legal debates I&#8217;ve seen on stem cell<br />
<a href="http://www.aish.com/societyWork/sciencenature/Is_Stem_Cell_Research_Ethical$.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.aish.com/societyWork/sciencenature/Is_Stem_Cell_Research_Ethical$.asp</a></p>
<p>I have wondered if people opposed to embryoic stem cell research will refuse the treatments that are derived from it.</p>
<p>(Judaism by &#038; large has concluded from a religious perspective that it&#8217;s acceptable.  It doesn&#8217;t just say, we want it to be okay so it is, but instead goes through the strict religious opinion to conclude it is.)</p>
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		<title>By: monkeybumpants</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They (meaning Fundies) say that embryos have souls. Never mind that the ones used for stem cell research are clusters of about four cells total.

They also seem to be under the impression that adult stem cells are better. This ignores the fact that adult stem cells are *multipotent* - they can turn into a limited number of other cell types. Embryonic stem cells are *pluripotent* - they can become **any** cell type. That&#039;s why they&#039;re far more valuable to medical research.

They also say that adult stem cells have borne more medical advancements. They don&#039;t seem to realise that this just may be because there was a **ban on embryonic stem cell research**. Of course you&#039;re gonna get more results from Option B when you&#039;re not allowed to try Option A!

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There&#039;s also a misconception that embryonic stem cells come from abortions. This is just not true. They&#039;re harvested from the frozen embryos leftover from IVF treatments (IVF involves created a number of embryos and implantiing one or two at a time until it takes). If not used for stem cell research, these leftover embryos would simply be destroyed. Which is the better option: throwing them into a medical incinerator, or using them to find cures for horrendous illnesses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They (meaning Fundies) say that embryos have souls. Never mind that the ones used for stem cell research are clusters of about four cells total.</p>
<p>They also seem to be under the depression that adult stem cells are better. This ignores the fact that adult stem cells are *multipotent* &#8211; they can turn into a limited number of other cell types. Embryonic stem cells are *pluripotent* &#8211; they can become **any** cell type. That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re far more valuable to medical research.</p>
<p>They also say that adult stem cells have borne more medical advancements. They don&#8217;t seem to realise that this just may be because there was a **ban on embryonic stem cell research**. Of course you&#8217;re gonna get more consequences from Option B when you&#8217;re not allowable to try Option A!</p>
<p>Addition:<br />
There&#8217;s also a misconception that embryonic stem cells come from abortions. This is just not right. They&#8217;re harvested from the frozen embryos leftover from IVF treatments (IVF involves produced a number of embryos and implantiing one or two at a time until it takes). If not used for stem cell research, these leftover embryos would simply be ruined. Which is the better option: throwing them into a medical incinerator, or using them to find cures for horrendous illnesses?</p>
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		<title>By: robert C</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how is it they can harvest stem cells from adults and still do the same thing, i think there is more money to be made from embryos and aborted babies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how is it they can harvest stem cells from adults and still do the same thing, i reckon there is more money to be made from embryos and aborted babies</p>
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